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218 "If you suffer from depression ..."

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Published January 3, 2015 53 Comments

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  1. Robert HowardRobert Howard says

    January 3, 2015 at 7:38 am

    There should be laws against this practice.

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  2. Brian says

    January 3, 2015 at 7:43 am

    In my life, this is especially true when it comes to religion. People seemed so convinced that believing in God is going to make my Depression go away. In fact, I used to be Lutheran Christian and part of the reason I am so messed up now has a lot to do with a belief in God. I’m better off without religion in my life.

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    • clay says

      January 3, 2015 at 7:57 am

      When writing the text for this strip, I took the part about God and pills right out of an advertisement.

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      • CorgiMom says

        November 14, 2021 at 1:15 pm

        You’ve got to be kidding me! Why do people do this. As a christian who’s suffering from depression I can 100% say that my religion does not make the depression just go away.

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  3. Duncan AbbottDuncan Abbott says

    January 3, 2015 at 7:45 am

    Change depression to Cancer or any chronic condition and the song is still resolutely the same. There are bottom feeders of every flavour out there

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  4. Keith GottschalkKeith Gottschalk says

    January 3, 2015 at 8:24 am

    Because that’s capitalism. Unfortunately.

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    • Doc says

      January 5, 2015 at 2:43 pm

      Xactly. They prey on everybody. You’re not that special just because you’re depressed. You’re just another possible consumer group like overweights, alzheimer’s patients or impotents.

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  5. Love BartonLove Barton says

    January 3, 2015 at 8:25 am

    I don’t know, maybe it is just me but I don’t mind when people share what works for them with me. I look at everyone I come across as a teacher – maybe they are teaching me that I really dislike the religion/product they are pushing/selling but maybe there might be something I can learn from in their experience too. In the end most people telling you stuff just want to help …

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    • depression comixdepression comix says

      January 3, 2015 at 10:07 am

      The only thing you can learn from listening to con artists is not to listen to con artists.

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    • Love BartonLove Barton says

      January 3, 2015 at 10:07 am

      not everyone who has suffered from depression and found a way out for themselves is a con artist. seriously.

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    • Love BartonLove Barton says

      January 3, 2015 at 10:09 am

      yah i don’t think i belong on this page any more … peace

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    • depression comixdepression comix says

      January 3, 2015 at 10:10 am

      I think you’re commenting on a different strip, because this one is about the commercialization of depression cures.

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    • Love BartonLove Barton says

      January 3, 2015 at 10:14 am

      To my way of viewing it – it is a commentary on people who have found a way out of depression and want to share that with others and so then start a business out of it. Write a book, draw a comic, start a group, market vitamins, workouts, religion whatever to help others. Which is cool and freaking righteous in my life experience. To each their own. I’d rather be around people who aren’t being slagged off for helping others.

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    • depression comixdepression comix says

      January 3, 2015 at 10:17 am

      I think you’re confusing “sharing” with “selling”. If I knew of a surefire way out of this hell, I’d share it free, like I do with this comic.

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    • depression comixdepression comix says

      January 3, 2015 at 2:27 pm

      Also note in the examples in the comic people are being dissuaded from seeking out real help — from taking their meds or seeing a therapist. I honestly believe a cure for depression, like cures for all medical ailments will come from science. Chicken Soup books are not science. Alternative medicine is not science. Religion and Scientology are not science. If it’s not science it can’t be tested, it can’t be proven it works. If there is no science behind the cures they can be dangerous at worst (not that there’s no risk associated with therapy or meds, but at least they are rigorously tested before given to the general public).

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    • depression comixdepression comix says

      January 3, 2015 at 2:31 pm

      Hence, if anyone markets a cure that makes claims without testing it, it is irresponsible, not “cool and freaking righteous”.

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    • depression comixdepression comix says

      January 3, 2015 at 2:35 pm

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    • Cyrus Krapf-AltomareCyrus Krapf-Altomare says

      January 3, 2015 at 4:06 pm

      Damn. One person disagrees with you and you jump down their throat with post after post. Not cool.

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      • Grackle says

        January 15, 2015 at 7:51 pm

        I thought Love Barton’s comments were patronizing as hell, as well as completely missing the point. The author’s response didn’t seem over the top.

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    • depression comixdepression comix says

      January 3, 2015 at 4:42 pm

      If I critiqued your work and you disagreed, I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a response. Part of the reason there are so many reponses is because I keep forgetting that hitting return on Facebook does not start a new paragraph, but sends the response. If you look at my response, I criticized the response, not the person. It would be “cool” if you could do likewise.

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    • Marcelle NicCullachMarcelle NicCullach says

      January 3, 2015 at 5:21 pm

      Just bringing up a different viewpoint, but not all alternative medicine is a scam. There has been research showing marked improvement in depression and anxiety with acupuncture, for instance. I agree with the major point of this comic, but that’s one point I can’t dismiss.

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      • Ki says

        April 4, 2017 at 7:40 am

        Thank you.

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    • Tim CarmodyTim Carmody says

      January 3, 2015 at 7:48 pm

      “I keep forgetting that hitting return on Facebook …” I do the same thing. I’ve gotten into the habit of writing my longer posts in a word processor then copying and pasting, because trying to change my typing habits wasn’t working.

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    • depression comixdepression comix says

      January 3, 2015 at 8:33 pm

      Marcelle NicCullach it is important to note that in the research acupuncture was compared to humanistic counselling which isn’t that robust. It should be compared to more robust therapies such as cognitive-behavioral, and compared to an acupuncture placebo (e.g. Streitberger & Klienhenz, 1998). This isn’t to say there’s nothing to acupuncture, just that more research is needed to address these issues.
      Tim Carmody it really is annoying. There should be a send button.

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  6. Bryce MaryottBryce Maryott says

    January 3, 2015 at 8:52 am

    Because if you’re evil enough to prey on someone, you’ll prey on the most vulnerable first.

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    • Bill FreemanBill Freeman says

      January 3, 2015 at 10:55 pm

      the most vulnerable are the most likely targets to get money from…… hence why they target the old, the sick and people in crises like divorces, foreclosures. taking what few bucks they have have left and might have helped but greedy scammers got one over and not a cop or court to do anything about it. Because the cost of a civil suit is prohibitive. Most these very people will be church claiming how good they are showing how their business caters to those people______. It is sickening and the laws do nothing. When your down the scum of the world comes out to kick you and the most programs unresonable demands you can’t complete to justify their screening process. just making them as bad as the scammers. Social Security and welfare it takes them years but if you don’t get the forms in 30 days they close your case out despite they can not take any action for months to years at a time but you have a tight deadline of now. It is no one wonder the suicide rates climb higher when people enter the system and scum come out to prey on them.

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  7. Tak Wolf says

    January 3, 2015 at 9:22 am

    Why are they pushing it on you? BECAUSE you are at your weakest. I had an anxiety attack in an elevator a few months ago, and of course, as soon as I got to really start weeping, a guy came up and tried to get me to accept Jesus, right on the spot. These people are like blowflies, they smell injury, and they come swarming in to drink. they feed on weakness and sickness. And as soon as you show a weakness they can exploit, they are right there.

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    • L says

      February 1, 2015 at 8:00 am

      Oh yeah, SO spot on. One time I was overwhelmed and while going to work, inside the metro, the tears started flowing from my eyes. I was already ashamed because I was crying in public and then a lady *jumps* to my side and starts “you know Jesus loves you, right?” Nice, now I’m feeling overwhelmed, ashamed AND invaded AND disrespected.

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  8. TimG says

    January 3, 2015 at 9:26 am

    Spot on. As an atheist who was raised catholic, I can tell you right now that faith and religion didn’t help my depression. It fueled it.

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  9. Luca BergamascoLuca Bergamasco says

    January 3, 2015 at 9:42 am

    “Because you’re at your lowest point, so you are an easy prey”.

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  10. Brenna SmithBrenna Smith says

    January 3, 2015 at 10:06 am

    Leave God out of this.

    Signed, a depressed person.

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    • Tak Wolf says

      January 6, 2015 at 1:23 am

      We are generally not the ones bringing god into this. The people who prey on the depressed do that.

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  11. @ChailynKamaria says

    January 3, 2015 at 11:05 am

    218: Never a truer word spoken – http://t.co/Gz7W7yZUSW via @depressioncomix

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  12. Nicole Taylor MorseNicole Taylor Morse says

    January 3, 2015 at 2:49 pm

    Just because you have religion doesn’t mean your life is perfect, and, being a more religious Christian, I constantly get talked to like it does.

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    • Michelle says

      August 16, 2015 at 5:07 pm

      Exactly; I’m pretty sure that John the Baptist, Paul, Stephen, Job, etc, would attest to that, as well.

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  13. Rose Wiltshire (@RoseWiltshire) says

    January 3, 2015 at 4:17 pm

    “218” the latest from Depression comix – really resonates. http://t.co/CyJGU9FRhK

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  14. Brett SchellBrett Schell says

    January 3, 2015 at 5:08 pm

    God, medicinally, is a multi digited sticky icky.

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  15. Gill Birch de Sebastián says

    January 3, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    Depression and religion in the same sack? Bound to be outcries for and against!
    In all my adult life, though, I have failed to understand why otherwise educated people embrace religion. Seems paradoxical…

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    • Jenny Islander says

      January 4, 2015 at 1:18 pm

      Education eliminates immanence? How does that work?

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    • Rex says

      January 4, 2015 at 6:19 pm

      I’m going to quote Ian Haworth from a Vice article originally published in the UK version of the magazine.

      ” I don’t use the word vulnerable very often, but I’d argue that we’re all vulnerable to the techniques used by these groups. The late Dr. John G Clark, who I quote a lot, said the safest people are the mentally ill. The easiest people to recruit are ones with alert, questioning minds who want to debate issues with other people. You take a strong-willed, strong-minded person and put them into a cult environment and the techniques used will break a person down very, very quickly. The smarter, the healthier the mind, the quicker and easier you are to control. It’s just one of these tragic realities.”

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_Information_Centre
      http://www.vice.com/read/uk-cult-information-centre-interview-202
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gordon_Clark

      Now mind you, this is talking “cults” not even “mainstream religion”. If people can be educated, sane, and sound and embrace honest to goodness cults that want to exploit one, they can embrace main stream religion.

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      • clay says

        January 5, 2015 at 7:19 am

        Yet a negative correlation between intelligence and religion has been found.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence

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  16. Jess SpindlerJess Spindler says

    January 4, 2015 at 3:58 pm

    We, the sick, must do what we can to make ourselves well, and we must be careful to be skeptical of quick and easy answers. If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him. That said, I am a pragmatist; if the Buddha helps you, then go with him; if Buddha does not help you, shun him. And if the Buddha asks for your credit card number, shun him and warn others about the false Buddha.

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  17. mika says

    January 5, 2015 at 4:38 am

    the god part hit me hard. I used to be catholic but because of depression now I’m not (it made me realize no one was out there to help me) and I fought a lot because many people pushed their religions onto me. obnoxious.

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  18. Blake Stacey (@blakestacey) says

    January 6, 2015 at 3:27 am

    “Overpriced so it makes you think it works!” http://t.co/2iZ5OfdajK

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  19. @32R4M says

    January 8, 2015 at 3:28 am

    218 http://t.co/Hr6MNushJg via @depressioncomix

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  20. jaskanpauhajannaapuriasdf says

    January 23, 2015 at 6:47 am

    god helped me when I was in my lowest point of life.. it seems that many of you havent been that low yet.. crossing my hands and feeling the comfort, it helped a lot

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    • clay says

      January 23, 2015 at 6:50 am

      Whether or not religion helped you or not is something that shouldn’t matter but it’s very unkind to judge the severity of other people’s illnesses by it.

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  21. @MalignantGhoul says

    February 18, 2015 at 9:10 pm

    THIS>> http://t.co/MjuVM1nywf

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  22. Alex V says

    March 26, 2015 at 5:11 pm

    This reminded me a lot of the time i got the courage to go see a GP to get a free psychologist referral about getting help for my depression. Instead of being helpful, the doctor started to be a councilor and spent half an hour being invasive and stating that if i had god in my life, I would be fine and that I need direction since it sounded like i was aimless.

    Some people, even in places of power and authority, will exploit your weakness for their own gains.

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  23. Fulcrum says

    December 20, 2015 at 4:17 am

    Because CAPITALISM.

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  24. Sparksol says

    March 3, 2017 at 1:05 pm

    “Preying” is exactly the word. Like predators targeting the sick and the weak members of the herd, because they’re typically easy catches.

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  25. Ki says

    April 4, 2017 at 7:34 am

    I can’t agree more. I’m tired of hearing pray to God or God’ll make it better.

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  26. EulersApprentice says

    August 19, 2018 at 10:26 pm

    They’re like vultures: they can smell your weakness…

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